laura's mathom house 2022-09-04 17:25:33

Hmm, if you mean modern media inspired by those type of folktales, I’m afraid not. My interest lies with the folktales much more than modern fantasy! But if you mean “modern folktales”… Possibly my favourite fairy tale about a deal with the devil is a literary fairy tale written in 1965 by Dutch writer Godfried Bomans. I’ll try to do it justice in a retelling, it’s called The Stolen Heart:

There once was a fisherman who was rich in family but lacking in almost everything else. He and his wife lived in a little house by the sea. They had six children and one more on the way, but the fisherman barely caught enough fish to feed them all.

Since he loved them all very much it hurt him terribly to see them hungry. And one evening when he had caught even less than usual, he sighed: “If only I was able to catch more.”

“That can be arranged,” a voice behind him spoke, and the fisherman saw the voice belonged to a richly dressed nobleman who was blowing on his hands as if he was freezing cold. “Sell your soul to me and you will be rich beyond belief. All you have to do is breathe into my mouth.”

The fisherman considered this and while he did so a chill wind touched his face. “Then you are the devil,” he replied.

The nobleman stopped smiling. “Sell me your soul and you will be rich beyond belief.”

“Alright,” the fisherman relented and he did as the nobleman instructed and exhaled his breath into the mouth of the stranger. The very moment he did so he felt a coldness in his chest where his heart ought to beat. “What have you done with my heart?” he asked, frightened.

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“Fairy tales are women’s tales. They’re bent-backed crones’ tales, sly gossips’ tales, work-worn…”

“Fairy tales are women’s tales. They’re bent-backed crones’ tales, sly gossips’ tales, work-worn mothers’ tales and old wives’ tales. They’re stories shared, repeated and elaborated on over mindless women’s work like spinning or mending or shucking corn. These stories are the voices of those who were, within a social and cultural context, so often voiceless; they’re women’s whispered desires and fears, neatly wrapped up in fantastical narratives filled with sex, violence and humour. Fairy tales speak of the things that women most hoped for – a prince, a castle, a happy ending – and those that they were most afraid of – that their children would be taken from them, that men would hurt them or take advantage of them, that their family wouldn’t be provided for.”

- Anne Thériault, “Fairy Tales Are Women’s Tales”, pub. in The Toast.

fictionadventurer:magpie-trove: I read an introduction to a collection of folktales starring girls…

fictionadventurer:

magpie-trove:

I read an introduction to a collection of folktales starring girls one time that was like “unlike Cinderella or Sleeping Beauty or Snow White, these girls are great role models for my daughters because they are strong and not passive pictures of the way Victorians wanted their demure women, waiting for their prince.” As an interpretation however, this is an incredibly poor understanding of these tales both because they are not Victorian tales but very old archetypal ones which carry a meaning beyond whatever overlay various ages choose to put on them and also because it fundamentally misunderstands the tales and undervalues the importance of passive strengths (by which I mean virtues like endurance, patience, vigilance, courage, all those which involve staying a certain way despite opposition).

Let’s look at Cinderella for instance. Many modern interpretations are just like the one above. Such stances, however, tend to overlook the fundamental element at the core of every Cinderella Story. Cinderella is at its core about identity. In every Cinderella story, the step-mother’s wickedness is in attempting to strip Cinderella of her identity. She is no longer a daughter of the house—the step-mother does not even allow her to count as a “maiden of the land” invited to attend the prince’s ball. She must be invisible; she must serve the house; she must sleep among the ashes so they cover and transform her and make her out to be something she was not before. Even her name, the core marker of her identity, must bear the ashes’ marks, and she becomes Cendrillon, Ashputel, Cinderella. Her step-mother employs every means to erase her as any one at all. When the royal delegation arrives and asks if there are any other maidens in the house the woman replies simply: no, there is no one else. But Cinderella’s power is her character. No matter how hard the step mother tries to erase it, she remains herself. 

Cinderella was never doing nothing. She was, instead, maintaining her identity with every move she made. She was made out to be a base creature, dehumanized, a nobody, but she never acted the part. Her continued kindness, sweetness, and gentleness shows who she really is despite the outward transfiguration. Her character acts as a marker of her true identity just as the horse head marks the goose girl or the princess’ delicacy marks the princess’ true identity in the princess and the pea. Cinderella can go to the ball and have the prince fall in love with her not because the fairy godmother sent her but because of who she is—a lady, a daughter of the house, a maiden of the land, a person with worth, a girl who loves. And at the end, the prince comes searching for her identity—who she is—and at just the moment the step-mother declares she does not exist she can come down and say it’s me, the lady of the glass slipper and the ashen scullery maid, this is who I am—and be recognized and loved for it. The whole time Cinderella has been rescuing herself by refusing to be what the stepmother tried to make her into in the only way that mattered; and the climax of the story is her reclaiming her identity. 

Snow White? Again, her character—her goodness and innocence—save her. They are not passive characters—they are simply characters the whole world must pass around, because they will not move. And that is the most under-rated form of strength that exists in the world. 

Around the same time that you posted this, I had stumbled upon an article that actually suggested parents should find alternative stories rather than having their children read “Cinderella” and “Snow White”. And you do such an excellent job of explaining just why that’s such a terrible take, but I’m just going to ramble on this theme because this is sparking a lot of latent thoughts.

I can and will go on rants about “feminist” fairy tales, because our culture acts like that’s a reform that fairy tales need, when I can’t think of another genre that provides so much exploration of feminine strengths. You don’t have to go very far in fairy tales to find women who rescue men, who can fight a battle or outsmart a trickster. But some of the most enduring fairy tales and the ones that get most maligned are the ones that celebrate traditionally feminine strengths–patience, gentleness, care for children, sewing and cooking and laundry and other domestic arts. Who do these people think were telling these fairy tales across the centuries? Who was passing them on to their children and using them to liven up sewing sessions or long winter nights? Who told them to the Grimm Brothers? Not men who wanted to keep women in their place, but women who lived in these places, who knew their own strengths and their own courage and the amazing things that they were capable of accomplishing. And that’s why these tales celebrate all kinds of women, and uniquely feminine women, not just the ones who can do the same things that the men can do.

Modern society seems to think that the only kind of strength that matters is active strength–someone who takes action to solve their own problems. But that take that ignores the fact that there are a lot of problems that can’t be solved, at least not alone. “Cinderella” and “Snow White” and even “Rapunzel” are abuse survivors. “Sleeping Beauty” is a child living under the weight of a chronic illness that dooms her to an early death. There are plenty of people in similar real-life situations that they can’t escape on their own. But it takes intense strength to hold onto your identity and your goodness in such bleak circumstances. It takes strength to accept help from others. These women are dazzling role models that any parent should be glad to let their child learn from. There’s more than one kind of woman in the world, and they need to see examples of more than one kind of strength.

“As this world becomes increasingly ugly, callous and materialistic, it needs to be reminded that the…”

“As this world becomes increasingly ugly, callous and materialistic, it needs to be reminded that the old fairy stories are rooted in truth, that imagination is of value, that happy endings do, in fact, occur, and that the blue spring mist that makes an ugly street look beautiful is just as real a thing as the street itself.”

- Elizabeth Goudge.

Favourite Fairy Tale Objects?

laurasimonsdaughter:

I’m curious, what are you favourite special objects that feature in fairy tales?

Things like:

  • The three walnuts that contain beautiful gowns from The Iron Stove
  • The wooden doll that helps with tasks from Vasilisa the Beautiful
  • The ring that wins true love from The Fisherlad and the Mermaid’s Ring
  • The feathers that show the way fromThe Three Feathers
  • The treacherous laces, the comb and the apple from Snow White

They do not have to be magical, anything that features in the plot counts. Share your favourites with me!

I’ve always loved the wish-granting coat of moss and gold thread from Mossycoat! It’d be wonderful to have one of those.

laurasimonsdaughter: fictionadventurer: Fairy Tales Involving Fiber Arts: The Wild…

laurasimonsdaughter:

fictionadventurer:

Fairy Tales Involving Fiber Arts:

  • The Wild Swans
  • Rumpelstiltskin
  • Sleeping Beauty
  • Clever Anait
  • (sort of) The Emperor’s New Clothes
  • Vasilisa the Beautiful
  • The Tsarevna Frog (Russian)
  • Baba Yaga (Russian)
  • Spindle, Shuttle, and Needle (German)
  • Frau Holle (German)
  • The Elves and the Shoemaker (German)
  • And Seven! (Italian) and The Three Spinners (German)
  • The Cowherd and the Weaver Girl (Chinese)
  • Also (sort of), all stories where a daughter asks for three marvellous gowns to stall for time, like All-Kinds-of-Fur (German), Donkeyskin (French), Catskin (English), The King Who Wished to Marry His Daughter (Scottish), Mossycoat (English) and The Princess That Wore a Rabbit-skin Dress (North American).

alarajrogers: prokopetz: Concept: fairy tale where the wicked step-parent (who is of course also…

alarajrogers:

prokopetz:

Concept: fairy tale where the wicked step-parent (who is of course also some sort of warlock) transforms the princess into a swan, as one does, but rather than running off to mope around in a lake and be beautifully tragic, the princess decides to stick around the palace and cause problems on purpose.

It is a beautiful day in the palace, and you are a horrible swan princess.